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McGinn’s Budget Briefing: Gloom, Doom, and Reorganization

By Erica C. Barnett, Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 5:34 PM
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L-R: Mayor Mike McGinn, Budget Director Beth Goldberg, and Finance Director Glen Lee

During a gloom-and-doom press briefing this afternoon, Mayor Mike McGinn, city budget director Beth Goldberg, and newly appointed acting city finance director Glen Lee announced that the city, facing what McGinn called “the longest, deepest recession since the Great Depression,” will make a number of major changes to its annual budget process.

McGinn has proposed creating a new Central Budget office, headed by Goldberg, which would oversee the budget, and a new Office of Financial and Administrative Services, overseen by current Department of Executive Administration Director Fred Podesta and Lee, which would ovesee the city’s financial procedures, tax administration, and business regulation.

The cumulative effect, as with many of McGinn’s proposals so far, would be to centralize budget authority over all departments in the mayor’s office. “What I’ve learned… is that separate departments don’t all report revenues and expenditures consistently across” the city, McGinn said. “We’re going to have to get greater control over those things.”

Additionally, McGinn blamed the city’s budget problems on “insufficient long-term planning” by the budget office in the past—an apparent swipe at former budget director Dwight Dively, who left the city after 16 years in the position to head up King County’s budget earlier this year. Asked if he was criticizing Goldberg’s predecessor, McGinn said, “prior budgeting was informed by a sense that, yes, there may be an economic downturn, but that will be informed by later improvement. We didn’t plan for a recession as long and deep as the one we face now.”

Goldberg also criticized the city’s decision, on the advice of Dively’s finance department, to dip into the city’s rainy-day fund to close a $40 million gap last year. “Had the [shortfall] been closed using ongoing reductions that lowered the base [budget], the deficit for 2011 would only be $21 million” instead of $50 million, Goldberg said.

McGinn and Goldberg also noted that “looming budget issues”—including an unexpected increase in the jail population; costs associated with a late-2009 power outage at Seattle Center; increasing retirement costs as more city employees retire; and maintenance backlogs at several city departments—will put even more stress on the city budget. As, he said, will the fact that Seattle Public Utilities’ revenues are down because people are buying less stuff, and thus throwing less stuff away—reducing the amount of money spent on solid-waste disposal. Similarly, the Seattle Department of Transportation lost money because it failed to anticipate reduced gas-tax revenues, to the tune of between $4 and $6 million.

McGinn said the shortfall would also mean likely increases to City Light rates as well as one-time surcharges, reorganizations of city departments, and job cuts. He backed even further away, however, from his previously stated goal of cutting 200 strategic advisor and management jobs this year, saying only that “If, after four years we haven’t reached that goal … then you’ll be able to challenge me on whether I’ve met my commitment to a reduction of 200 senior-level positions.” He added: “I think those will take time to accomplish.”

Interestingly, two of the “looming issues” McGinn raised that are contributing to the budget shortfall are actually in line with the city’s (and McGinn’s) environmental and sustainability goals: The falloff in solid-waste disposal (the city has adopted a goal of “zero waste“) and the reduction in gas taxes (a result, in part, of the fact that people are driving less). Asked about how he would deal with that discrepancy over the long term, McGinn said, “We know that gas taxes are going to decline over time. The issue is that we spent gas tax [revenue] faster than anticipated.” As for solid waste, he said, “We may indeed be seeing the positive effect of our strategy to reduce waste. You have to look at a much longer term than the budget cycle.”

  • WOW !
    McGinn has resorted to the time honored tradition of politicians and ten year olds. Both of whom who operate on the same intellectual plane - Blame Throwing.
  • mfer3
    1. "Blamed the city’s budget problems on “insufficient long-term planning” : Yes, Mayor McGinn, the Department of Finance, the City, the whole world should have seen the financial collapse coming. Ya, right. Let's think of some criticisms that actually have some sticking power.

    2. "Criticized the city’s decision, on the advice of Dively’s finance department, to dip into the city’s rainy-day fund to close a $40 million gap last year.“: If that wasn't rain, then what is? I'm sure the new mayor would have defied all City departments and reduced services even more drastically than Nickels did. Ya, right. NOT using some of the reserves during the worst financial crisis in history and drastically cutting services during a time of great need in the city would have been the bad management decision.

    3. "..backed even further away, however, from his previously stated goal of cutting 200 strategic advisor and management jobs this year": Yes and now the majority of them want to unionize, which will likely result in higher costs for the City in the long-run. Not to mention the fact that they are they are among the most skilled workers at the City and they were treated like dirt. To accomplish what? Nothing.

    4. Re: Swipes at Dively: Why even go there? People don't think you're doing a good job yet (example: listen/read on the State of the City disaster). Mr. Dively one of the most widely respected public servants in the City and did he did EXCELLENT job managing the City's finances through several mayors. And he left in a respectful manner. Where are those attacks going to get you? I hardly think everyone is going to change their minds and suddenly realize that you and the newbies are the real budget geniuses in town.
  • McGinn needs to play Gorbechev to Seattle and make his legacy splitting the city into 4 more manageable parts -- North, South, Central and West.

    The current budget problems are all due to scalability problems with an overly dense Seattle not able to live in harmony with the newer surrounding exurbs.
  • sarah68
    "Scalability problems"? Did you happen to miss the recession, Bailo? You know, the one that's affected every level of government for the last 1.5 years?
  • normandi
    I am certainly left with the feeling that I am reading about the daily on-going struggles of a high school vocational class that is failing in their course work regarding municipal operations and governance. The time is overdue for the new administration to increase the level of competence in their actions and statements.
  • CityVet
    The bottom line is this… McGinn is an arrogant, INCOMPETENT amateur. If he were even the slightest bit capable, then at some point he would get up to speed so he can run with the big dogs. But folks….I don’t think that is going to happen. McGinn’s overall lack of judgment and decision making transcend the learning curve associated with being the new guy on the block. For example, what is with the publicly announced Seawall ballot proposal before securing the support of the City Council? Or his commitment to expand Sound Transit’s infrastructure without talking to Sound Transit first? Or aiming to cut 200 positions before explaining how such a move improves the budget situation? C’mon….seriously! Or knowingly hiring a senior advisor with a felony bank fraud conviction – and a faked PhD? BUT blaming Dively for failing to anticipate a major downturn in the national economy? – well that is just ridiculous. Dively is a respected professional….period.

    I’ve worked under several mayors – having started my career with the City in 1988. But I refuse to work for McGinn – he does not take his post seriously and I’m not going to help him dismantle the work of his predecessors. In my opinion, Rice, Nickels and Royer are among the most competent and dedicated executives to have ever run this city. They truly cared about Seattle’s citizens, neighborhoods, businesses and employees. But McGinn? C’mon….Seriously!!

    We should be disgusted by the fact that Seattle voters booted an excellent mayor out of office because of a freak snowstorm and the biased reporting of a single journalist at the Seattle Times. Nickels brought us light rail, safer neighborhoods, and did his best to expand economic opportunity for everyone. But what is McGinn doing? What is his vision for the city? How is he helping the business community? What are his plans for Seattle’s neighborhoods?

    Come the next mayoral election, CM Harrell or Burgess -- please put us out of our misery!
  • sarah68
    You really needed to post this twice? And is your new job, by any chance, on Burgess's sub-rosa mayoral campaign?
  • CityVet
    I'd love that job!
  • kk
    I am certain the Mayor cares that we will be able to bicycle on the ruins of the viaduct. And take a bicycle ferry across Lake Washington when the 520 bridge capsizes.
  • cityvet
    The bottom line is this… McGinn is an arrogant, INCOMPENT amateur. If he were even the slightest bit capable, then at some point he would get up to speed so he can run with the big dogs. But folks….I don’t think that is going to happen. McGinn’s overall lack of judgment and decision making transcend the learning curve associated with being the new guy on the block. For example, what is with the publicly announced Seawall ballot proposal before securing the support of the City Council? Or his commitment to expand Sound Transit’s infrastructure without talking to Sound Transit first? Or aiming to cut 200 positions before explaining how such a move improves the budget situation? C’mon….seriously! Or knowingly hiring a senior advisor with a felony bank fraud conviction – and a faked PhD? BUT blaming Dively for failing to anticipate a major downturn in the national economy? – well that is just ridiculous. Dively is a respected professional….period.

    I’ve worked under several mayors – having started my career with the City in 1988. But I refuse to work for McGinn – he does not take his post seriously and I’m not going to help him dismantle the work of his predecessors. In my opinion, Rice, Nickels and Royer are among the most competent and dedicated executives to have ever run this city. They truly cared about Seattle’s citizens, neighborhoods, businesses and employees. But McGinn? C’mon….Seriously!!

    We should be disgusted by the fact that Seattle voters booted an excellent mayor out of office because of a freak snowstorm and the biased reporting of a single journalist at the Seattle Times. Nickels brought us light rail, safer neighborhoods, and did his best to expand economic opportunity for everyone. But what is McGinn doing? What is his vision for the city? How is he helping the business community? What are his plans for Seattle’s neighborhoods?

    Come the next mayoral election, CM Harrell or Burgess -- please put us out of our misery!
  • beaverhousin
    Are you insinuating Mayor McGinn doesn't care about Seattle citizens, neighborhoods, businesses, and employees? That is inappropriate and has no place on this forum. There is never any doubt Rice, Nickels, Royer, and McGinn care about the state of this City.
  • CityVet
    Yes I am...All he cares about is disrupting the viaduct.
  • Drive-By-Trucker_(Soapboxin')
    Character is destiny, and I am not so sure about McGinn's character. I personally wouldn't make the blanket statement that he doesn't care about the city, but I do think it's appropriate as hyberbole 'on this forum.'
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    He's very 'transparently' grabbing any and all power within his reach right now, and he has not proven himself to be a competent manager in any way, shape, or form.
  • Drive-By-Trucker_(Soapboxin')
    Whatever happened to Susan Kelleher, the intrepid investigative reporter, anyway? And how long have you been holding this rage inside? Why did you choose now as the time to vent it?
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    Just curious.
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    I feel your pain, but I hope you didn't quit your job without having another one lined up. Work is hard to find these days.
  • CityVet
    Thanks...I'm lucky. I found another gig before jumping ship. Yeah...I've always respected the Times...still do. But that single reporter played by a different set of rules.
  • tpn
    Did anyone at Publicola notice that the last sentence of the press release (on which this story is based) slips into first person (that first person presumably being McGinn)?
  • morning fizzy
    " As, he said, will the fact that Seattle Public Utilities’ revenues are down because people are buying less stuff, and thus throwing less stuff away—reducing the amount of money spent on solid-waste disposal. "

    How does reducing the amount of money spent on solid-waste disposal reduce revenues? Does that mean people are moving to smaller containers? If so, wouldn't the reduced costs of getting rid of it by the utility lower the costs to the utility? Or are people reducing the size of containers because the city raised rates and they are putting the about the same amount into those smaller containers?
  • City Employee (Really)
    No, the City budgets based on per ton tipping fees -- the less crap thrown away, the less revenue generated by the tipping fees -- something like $128 per ton. The model is designed to support current operations -- so if that amount of trash is not generated, then SPU freaks outs.

    Did you know SPU pays an employee over $65k a year to have you switch to low flow toilets -- sure a good idea, but that salary is predicated on you dumping more crap into the waste system. SPU definitely needs to look at their overhead rate and determine if such additional programs are warranted.
  • morning fizzy
    Sorry to be so dense but I'm still not clear on this.

    Revenue is generated by tipping fees. Are these fees paid by commercial accounts by weight? I pay the same amount whether I have anything or not.

    I'm pretty sure the city isn't paid for garbage, but rather has to pay for getting rid of it.

    Anyway if you can expound on this, thanks.
  • City Employee (Really)
    Garbage rates are predicated on a certain amount of waste generated by commercial and residential use. The City must generate a certain amount of 'revenue' from trash in order to pay the fixed costs associated with the two companies which pick up the trash in the city and the landfill on the Columbia which accepts 1 train load of garbage a day from Seattle alone. If the amount of tonnage is not met to meet those cost obligations, the City has to make up the difference. Hence, a large portion of the revenue is based on commercial garbage in which the amount dumped generates a tipping fee in excess of the fixed cost.
  • kk
    Solid waste costs money to get rid of, so the less people throw away, the less it costs the city. The Mayor screwed up. The City also pays the County for wastewater treatment, so it does not make money when people flush more crap down the toilet. Low flow toilets save the City money, and also keep the City from imposing water restricitions (and it looks like it will be a dry summer). I'm guessing "City Employee (Really)" doesn't work for any city utility.
  • iviola
    I think McGinn gets "it" on some level, although the snipe at Dively is petty. This isn't a "v" shaped recovery, so prepare and budget for the new normal. Thats a good start, philosophically. Better than someone whistling through the graveyard.
  • West Seattle Waiter
    Its amazing.. McGinn is really really thin skinned. Blaming Dively is really weak and is not believable. He does not have the political capital to cut services and raise taxes. Unlike Dow, who the public will give the benefit of the doubt. What politician is going to say... "sure i believe in the McGinn administration plan to raise taxes and cut services."

    McGinn is in deep denial of how bad he is perceived by the public. Again wait to he becomes the focus of the national media comes knocking as the worse mayor in USA and it will and its only a matter of weeks...
  • parksguy
    It's going to be a very rocky budget process when the Council doesn't trust the Mayor's recommendations. And this mayor has done nothing to establish any goodwill with Council or city staff. I understand the City is in a tough General Fund budget position, but I've to figure out who cutting utility rate funded positions helps that one iota.
  • Wells
    What BS.
  • ratcityreprobate
    Thanks Greg, we all appreciate your sage counsel.
  • Outraged
    This is total horseshit: the confused leading the misinformed leading the petty.

    If they wanted to take issue with Mayor Nickels and last year's Council for the choices they made, that would be fair game. It would be unproductive, but at least fair. To cast aspersions on Dwight is petty in the extreme. I particularly love McGinn's assertion that there was insufficient planning for a long recession, as though he really would have been the one to steer a prudent, conservative course. Mike McGinn is more conservative, prudent, and methodical than Dwight Dively? What a crock!

    You've lost whatever shred of goodwill you had left, buddy. Your particular blend of incompetence and mean spiritedness is truly galling. I hope your reign ends in many indictments.
  • Resident
    Oh for God's sake, give it a rest. Your guy didn't win, your other guy got a new job, everybody is still on the government teet (except for a few of the little people who actually do the work - they're expendable) so quit your bitching.

    You undoubtedly have real work to do for the people of the city (because no one but city employees and a handful of Nickels partisans gives a shit about any of this) so lose your outrage and get back to work. We don't pay you to sit around and whine.
  • FYI
    Do the math. Outrage posted around midnight. Not on city time.
  • Dorothy
    For the record, some of us care about this who a) don't work for the city and b) did not support Nickels. And for the record, I think McGinn is a nice guy, but he is really screwing up - a lot. I care because I live in this city and want it to run well. Demoting Dively was the move of a rank amateur - and the County benefited from it. I wish the new folks the best - they will need it.
  • sarah68
    I also don't work for the City and didn't support Nickels and think Constantine was pretty bright for grabbing Dively. And what on earth does posting late at night have to do with being a City employee? This is a fairly big city with lots of people on their computers, and most of us have no ax to grind except we don't want the City to disintegrate. Because we LIVE HERE -- duh.
  • FYI
    Sarah68 please follow the posts -- My comment was in reference to Resident who suggests Outraged has posted from work at the City. I was DEFENDING Outraged, who is obviously a City Employee.
  • notafiree
    I voted for him and I regret it now. If only there was some way we could buy indulgences to retrieve our votes it could probably restore the city budget deficit. I'd easy blow $39.95 to take my vote back.
  • nnasm
    Resident, you had REALLY wake up and stop looking at McGinn through your obliviously McGinn colored glasses. Not everybody who calls a McGinn a McGinn, is a disgruntled city employee or a bitter Nichole's supporter. A lot of us have just been observing. And upon this observation it's become increasingly clear that McGinn was never suited for this job. I personally blame the Seattle major media outlets (TIMES) for not properly vetting him.

    We collectively held our noses anyway and prayed that McGinn would turn out to be a reasonable person and would be open to learning on the job so to speak. Well, after two and a half months... it's becoming obvious that he's incredibly UNREASONABLE... AND is apparently unwilling to learn on the job, except in cases where public opinion and blaring headlines finally provide the dope slap across the forehead.

    His own staffers are nervous and beginning to let it be known through back channels that he is a loose cannon who would "rather die a martyr, than reach consensus." Scary to say the least.
  • jeff
    It would be easier to believe that the commenters here don't have an axe to grind if they did something other than say McGinn sucks every time Erica posts a story.

    The city budget is in awful shape due to no fault of McGinn. McGinn says the budget is in awful shape and we need to take steps to fix it. He does this by sticking to his goals (reducing senior staff) but adopting a more realistic time line. All of this is totally reasonable. Yet you post unsourced quotes and say he is being unreasonable and unwilling to learn (didn't he modify his position on the timing of staff cuts).

    It is your right to hate the guy but don't expect others to agree with you without giving any sort of rational argument.
  • that guy
    Jeff, while I agree that comments are often filled with a less than small dose of vitriol (probably because of a severe insecurity about the future of the city), I think you're wrong about McGinn. He's not sticking to his goals.

    The first and foremost promise we as citizens got from the campain was that the McGinn administration would not be engaging in "politics as usual" and that's all it's been so far.

    Nickels lost because of the snow storm and the rampant stories that he was a power monger and bully. McGinn seems to be right in line with the latter idea. He's centralizing all of the budgetary and financial responsibilities in one house, which MAY NOT (and I stress NOT) be a very good idea. It's the same story with a different title. At least with Nickels, we knew it wouldn't be mismanaged and bumbled four times before there was any traction at all.

    PS - I was a student of Dwight Dively's and I know Paul Krugman. Dively is no dope and I think Paul would agree.
  • nnasm
    "Modify his position on the timing of the staff cuts?" Well, you missed the "except in cases where public opinion and blaring headlines finally provide the dope slap across the forehead" comment. Do you honestly think he learned a thing here? This was just a demonstration of basic political 101 survival skills. Once word reached the mainstream that the cuts were not exactly arrived it through an intelligent and fiscally reasoned process.. the gig was up.

    And I love rational arguments. I just wish they had occurred back in September and October , and had been covered by the press.

    As far as city budgets go... who on earth foresaw the real extent of this downturn? Compared to almost any other city in the country of comparable size, Seattle's budget is in amazing shape. Dively absolutely did an outstanding job. He worked for and was respected by three mayors, dozen's of council members and all of his peers. (I'm still flabbergasted after watching the Mayor treat him with such disrespect. He marginalized him and effectively ran him out of town. Why? The Mayor's Doom and Gloom finger pointing yesterday was the first time I've heard anybody say a disparaging thing about Dively's record. And quite frankly, when it comes to the Mayor's 10 week track record, I am more likely to believe Mr Dively and the city council.
  • RBSeattle
    In Reply to Jeff. Sure -- if you ask almost anyone they would say cut the City Budget, give me money back. But like all those idiots who say "Don't nationalize healthcare but don't mess with my medicare" - once you tell them the services they won't be receiving they start singing a different tune.

    I think everyone would be happy to see the Mayor cut the budget in a thoughtful way or implement necessary belt tightening - we aren't stupid, we know there is a recession. But he is either making stupid mistakes or needs to fire his press and communications folks. Or maybe his goal is to create the basis for an exciting Kennedy School of Government Case Study on Mayoral Transitions!

    Obviously there are a lot of people that had issues with Nickels but I think most of those folks, like me thought we were sending an overall good Mayor a message that not everyone was totally happy. Instead we ended up having to choose between two guys who I really believe were one issue guys - who all of a sudden thought - "F*!#, I could win this, I better start coming up with policy positions on all this other stuff".

    He probably would make a great Mayor of Edmonds but he wasn't ready for this and we are seeing our worst fears materialize. Everyone is pulling for him to figure it out quickly and turn it around - 'cause lets face it if he fails we all are going to have to suffer the consequences for longer than the next four years. But if he or his staffers posting here are upset about the criticism - then you should all resign - welcome to politics. What has he done but throw one bomb after another, and shown some unbelievably amatuer managerial missteps - no resume for one of your closest advisors? 48 norms? Come on who came up with that crap some 24 year old staffer who went from undergrad to grad and has never had a real job? Show us some results and the snarkiness will die down.
  • jeff
    Yeah I missed the dope slap comment. But the mainstream is not commentors on Publicola. I think a large fraction of the city (not inculding me) would be happy to lay off some city staff even if the decision wasn't arrived at in a thoughtful manner.

    Paul Krugman, for one, was talking about a lost decade at least 15 months ago. If Saint Dively was paying any kind of attention back then he should have realized that we might blow through all of our rainy day fund before the sunshine returned.
  • Wells
    Meanwhile, the deep-bore tunnel fiasco marches onward with idiotic consensus. City Council fears the embarrassment of backing down on their decision or even reconsidering its merit. And the seawall foundation continues to rot. Mike must shake up City Hall and challengers are preparing for the next election. Which candidates will you support? Those endeared to the status quo of the good ol boys club?
  • nnasm
    Funny... only in Seattle would the consensus among some of the most varied and dissimilar interest groups imaginable be seen as idiotic. Most other cities would see this as a minor miracle.
  • Drive-By-Trucker_(Soapboxin')
    Actually, Wells lives in Portland, so the 'only in Seattle' comment doesn't apply to him AND HE DOESN'T SPEAK FOR US.
  • Drive-By-Trucker_(Soapboxin')
    Wait just a second. I've gotta show you this picture of my other cat, Roscoe. It's just adorable!
  • Not resident
    What are you? The resident idiot. I voted for McGinn and the notion that he's the fiscally responsible one and Dively's a spendthrift is moronic.
  • sister Loura
    Why some people potraying Dively the saviour of the world. The guy knows no shit, he is as boring as hell, if you start to convers with him - you will figure out he is mr Yes, and Puppet of the few.
  • ParksGuy
    Anyone who has ever worked with Dwight in any capacity or taken a class from him certainly knows you don't know that you're talking about.
  • parksguy
    Somehow dumping on Dively doesn't seem like the right thing to do. Last time I looked, none of us elected him to his former position. And certainly McGinn had to know the City was heading into a difficult budget year so why do you force out the one guy who probably has the most institutional knowledge on the City's finances and operations. The first rule for getting yourself out of a deep hole is to stop making it deeper. Maybe the Mayor should add that to his list of office norms.
  • Drive-By-Trucker_(Soapboxin')
    I sure am glad somebody's taking charge. I feel just great now.
  • mickey
    Oh, and that swipe at Dively by McGinn and Goldberg? Gonna backfire.
  • mickey
    It never ceases to amaze me how some politicians like to create policies that encourage citizens to conserve, and then right turn around and $crew the citizens for conserving. I expect even more of this nonsense with McGinn, who appears to be both power hungry AND amateurish -- a very bad combination.
  • MAW
    I have three envelopes. Open the first envelope: "Blame your predecessor!"
    Open the second envelope: "Reorganize!" Open the third envelope:.......
  • Sparky
    What's in the third envelope? I'm dying to know! Is it "Have an affair with a staffer, foreigner, or sex worker!"?
  • hobgoblin
    I believe the third envelope says, "Prepare three envelopes."
  • Trevor
    Is McGinn Seattle's Jimmy Carter? And will Burgess promise "morning in Seattle"?
  • hobgoblin
    We'll know if McGinn is attacked by a rabbit.
  • Trevor
    Or if Burgess pulls some crazy October surprise.
  • liberal
    BURGGESS will lock the poor in a Consideration Camp. are Seattliets ready for that, i guess the answer is NO
  • A "Consideration Camp" is a fascinating notion.
  • Drama Queen
    I love grandiose hyperbole!!!! Let me play!!!

    BURGGESS IS WORSE THAN HITLER AND WILL EAT THE POOR FOR DINNER WITH A NICE PAN GRAVY AND SOME MASHED CAULIFLOWER (HE'S ON ATKINS YOU KNOW) !!!!!

    How's that?
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