The Killer App of 1900

By Glenn Fleishman, Friday, December 11, 2009 at 11:18 AM
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It’s instructional to look back 100 years, not long after the first electrical generation plants were built to bring power to towns and cities, to assess the situation we find ourselves in with broadband availability today.

At the turn of the century, electricity was largely used for electrical lighting to replace gas lighting. Gas required distribution of a flammable substance all over a city, and wasn’t practical outside of dense, urban areas. Electrical power also needed to be distributed, but the generation source—coal or water—could be in one place.

A hundred years ago, lighting was the killer app for electricity, the thing that made it worthwhile to have installed. No one particularly understood what else electricity might bring to the mass market, because other uses were generally specialized, the province of experts, the wealthy, or industry. Compressors to allow refrigeration and freezing, electric heat, and other innovations came later to homes.

Arguments raged from the start of electrical power generation against municipal ownership of utilities, partly for practical reasons: Many early efforts around the world had led to huge debt and poor operations when cities got involved. But the experience wasn’t uniform, and neither was the quality of privately owned enterprises.

In researching a KUOW segment airing soon about the digital divide and Seattle’s particular problems with broadband, I found this marvelous statement from Oct. 24, 1905, in the Richmond, Virginia, Times-Dispatch newspaper. A lawyer named Henry Anderson was arguing on behalf of two clients of the city who didn’t want to be taxed to pay for a municipal utility. Among other arguments against municipal ownership, he said, eloquently:

“Unless we adopt the principles of socialism, It can hardly be contended that It is the province of government, either state or municipal, to undertake the manufacture or supply of the ordinary subjects of trade and commerce, or to impose burdens upon the whole community for the supposed benefit of a few….

“The ownership and operation of municipal light plants stands upon a different basis from that of the ownership of water works, with which it is so often compared. Water is a necessity to the health and life of every individual member of a community…It must be supplied in order to preserve the public health, whether it can be done profitably or not, and must be furnished, not to a few individuals, but to every individual.

“Electric lights are different. Electricity is not in any sense a necessity, and under no conditions is it universally used by the people of a community. It is but a luxury enjoyed by a small proportion of the members of any municipality, and yet if the plant be owned and operated by the city, the burden of such ownership and operation must be borne by all the people through taxation.

“Now, electric light is not a necessity for every member of the community. It Is not the business of any one to see that I use electricity, or gas, or oil in my house, or even that I use any form of artificial light at all.”

Unlike water, which had but a few purposes and was hard to turn to others, electricity was a different kind of technology, and contemporary citizens had a difficult time seeing past Edison’s light bulbs and Times Square.

The opinion of the lawyer wasn’t unusual, either: Electricity should go to people who had money, not hooked up willy-nilly to everyone. And why should a city support through tax dollars–regardless of the potential of repaying costs through revenue later—such universal availability?

Rural America, where 60 percent of the US population lived in 1900 and 45 percent by 1930, didn’t get electricity on any broad scale until the 1930s with FDR’s initiatives. Only 10 percent of rural homes had electricity in 1930; nearly half by 1945—at which point under 40 percent of Americans lived outside cities.

FDR powered the Tennessee Valley Authority and the Rural Electrification Administration, which were federally mandated to bring power, and which led to municipally owned entities many of which remain public today.

The argument FDR made was that the quality of life—and clearly the economic output—of rural Americans would suffer without electricity, which in the space of a few decades had become immensely profitable for private utilities, and an absolute necessity.

Undoubtedly, you  see where I’ve been going with all this. Broadband in 2009 is electricity in 1900. We may think we know all the means to which high-speed Internet access may be put, but we clearly do not: YouTube and Twitter prove that new things are constantly on the way and will emerge as bandwidth and access continues to increase.

Like electricity, the notion of whether broadband is an inherent right and necessity of every citizen is up for grabs in the US. Sweden and Finland have already answered the question: It’s a birthright. Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, and many European countries aren’t far behind in having created the right regulatory and market conditions to bring better and affordable broadband to a greater percentage of its citizens than in the US.

In Seattle, we’ll see how Mayor-Elect McGinn proceeds with a broadband plan cooked up under his predecessor (where it languished) that would let anyone in Seattle ask for and receive a fiber-optic hookup for Internet, TV, and voice at competitive rates to today’s slower and funkier cable and DSL services. (As I said in today’s Morning Fizz, I’m encouraged that McGinn has kept Nickels’ technology guy, Bill Schrier (the guy who came up with the plan), on board.)

The future of broadband for all is also in front of the FCC right now, with the commission soon to release recommendations about bringing broadband to all rates fast enough to support video, two-way communication, distance learning, entertainment, education, and telephony.

Interestingly, the FCC chair, Julius Genachowski, is thinking along the lines of electricity. The Washington Post says he’s reading Nicholas Carr’s book about the birth of electrical generation, The Big Switch, which I have not yet read.

The FCC head said recently, “Our electric grid was the platform for innovation that, as much as anything, helped propel the United States to global economic leadership in the 20th century. Our broadband grid has the potential to play the same role for the 21st century. Where we once had electricity-driven appliances, we now have information-fueled applications.”

Of course, maybe that’s only for those that can afford it.

  • Good writing!!!
  • I'm not old enough to remember the introduction of electricity but I do remember the technical revolution brought about by the introduction of calculators.

    More and more I believe that universal internet connectivity is just as essential as universal health care.
  • With the ability for fiber to have excess capacity at minimal cost, it would be in the taxpayers or ratepayers best interest to invest in fiber as it has the ability to amortize the cost of deployment over the longest time while still maintaining viability as a technology. As another poster mentioned, the aging switched based telephone infrastructure will need upgrade and replacement soon. Fiber can serve both purposes as well as become an element of smart grid and smart highway systems. This spreads the cost of deployment of the infrastructure over more uses/technologies.
  • I like your perspective on this! Great post.
  • It’s hard to find knowledgeable people on this topic, but you sound like you know what you’re talking about! keep posting we will wait for your future updates.
  • Electricity and Light as the Killer App of 1900. Broadband in 2009 is electricity in 1900.
  • kirann
    I would like to thank you for the efforts you have made in writing this post. I am hoping the same best work from you in the future as well.


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  • gitak
    You got so many points here, that's why i love reading your blog. Thank you so much!
  • Seth:

    First, you have to consider that any wireless technology is going to need some sort of wired/fiber infrastructure to interconnect it all. There just is not enough spectrum available to do the speeds an average user will want and then aggregate all of those users to network them together.
    Second, the gain figures you are quoting for 60 GHz antennas do not lend themselves to a size that can be integrated in a portable consumer device.
    Third, if you look at the cost of installing a fixed wireless device at the consumer level as compared to fiber, they are much more expensive and will never deliver the maximum capacity that fiber can dollar for dollar. Furthermore the innovations in wireless technology rarely last more than a few years so obsolescence is also a factor.
    Fourth, for a fractional increase in material costs, one can build out so much more capacity in a fiber network than is believed to be necessary today. This is done by merely adding more strands to the initial fiber deployment. Leaving this dark fiber in place for future capacity that only requires terminations at the end points, and no labor to run more lines give fiber the advantage hands down. This does not even mention the improvement in technology to increase capacity of existing lit fiber over time.

    With the ability for fiber to have excess capacity at minimal cost, it would be in the taxpayers or ratepayers best interest to invest in fiber as it has the ability to amortize the cost of deployment over the longest time while still maintaining viability as a technology. As another poster mentioned, the aging switched based telephone infrastructure will need upgrade and replacement soon. Fiber can serve both purposes as well as become an element of smart grid and smart highway systems. This spreads the cost of deployment of the infrastructure over more uses/technologies.

    Wireless will always have it's place. It will provide the element of portability to a subset of features and applications of what will run on fiber networks. Wireless alone will not be able to support all of the needs for information exchange our society will have in the next 80 years. Fiber today interconnects much of the cellular network. New technologies have allowed for microcellular systems over fiber such as this company does (www.extenetsystems.com). The FCC has already started asking for comments on how to migrate the current circuit based telephone systems to packet based VOIP. They recognize that times are changing. Our whole internet would not exist today if it weren't for electricity. I highly doubt anyone in the early 1900's envisioned the computer and internet industry would be a technology derivative from something they thought was just going to provide lights......
  • seth
    If you read the WiGig link I sent to you will note "with the beam-forming feature it could more easily send data and content around a home. "

    This is pretty well all you can do with a single 802.11g AP indoors.

    Outdoors I can pick up a commercial 802.11g AP WISP (omni) ten miles over water with a LUXOR 4 in sq eternal antenna.

    You ever had a look at what the community can do by hacking commercial units. Compare the features of an off the shelf WRT54G and one with DD-WRT.

    If commercial 60 ghz radio today can do over a mile, I doubt it would be a month before the commercial "beamforming" WiGig conforming 60 GHZ is hacked at least adding external antennas.
  • Glenn Fleishman
    @seth: I'm sorry, you're just incorrect. Beamforming isn't magic. It provides better directionality than fixed directional antennas through extreme cleverness.

    It doesn't turn a 10-meter range technology into one that spans thousands of feet.

    You're making the same error in discussing Wi-Fi. The more power you put into Wi-Fi, within legal limits, the further the signal goes. But additional power means more directionality, so you wind up with links that span miles but are by necessity point-to-point.

    60 GHz attenuates rapidly, cannot penetrate most physical objects (even the door of a TV cabinet is considered too much), and isn't licensed for a power level that would allow use beyond a single room.
  • arclight
    I read the article. A few points:

    1. While RF-based broadband delivery is nice from a mobility standpoint, there's not enough spectrum available in the cities to allow everyone to have anything like the connectivity they can obtain using a wired network. Despite claims of the New America Foundation, I have a very hard time imagining that mobile devices will successfully share spectrum with flight-safety and air-defense radars. I worked for the predecessor to Clearwire, and while both WiMAX with beamforming and LTE are both great technologies, they cannot compete with multiple wavelengths on a single-mode fiber.

    2. Some European countries may decide that this or that is a human right. That's their right; the funding is their responsibility. What we decide is based on how much additional financial responsibility we are willing to take on. The current debt, as reported by the former Comptroller of the Treasury, and counting unfunded obligations to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, is somewhere around 60 TRILLION dollars, not just the 12-14 trillion being bandied about near here in Washy DC. That equates to about $600,000 per taxpayer. Before we decide to take on additional financial responsibility, we'd better already be executing a plan to pay that debt.

    Before anyone reveals their lack of maturity by screaming about "Bush's budget" or "Reagan's budget" or "Clinton's budget", please recall the following:

    (1) The Congress (who owns the Federal budget, and always has) has been hiding the true size of the Federal debt for many years (since the late 1960s, to be exact). This is why we are so much further in debt than the "official" figures would indicate. Both parties have contributed faithfully to this outrage, so there's no blaming one party or the other.

    (2) During Reagan's years, the D-controlled Congress declared his budgets "dead on arrival" year after year with great glee. Certainly they wanted everyone to know that THEY owned the deficit spending, not Reagan!

    (3) During the Clinton years, the supposed "surplus" is belied by the fact that the total government debt continued to rise in every one of those years. See the 2010 Federal budget document at whitehouse.gov, and check out the Federal debt from 1993 to 2001 if you don't believe.

    (4) To emphasize the bipartisan nature of the Congressional corruption, consider Clinton's years again. The first two years the Ds controlled the Congress. The last 6 the Rs controlled it. Was there any substantial change in the trajectory of the debt (up vs. down)? Well, no.


    3. A more basic question: Since government spending is ultimately supported by the private wealth base, and since the private wealth base requires a certain amount of spending in order to just maintain its ability to exist, how much government spending can the private wealth base sustain? If government spending (regardless of what it's spent for) exceeds what the private wealth base can sustain, ultimately the private wealth base will be destroyed, and the government will fail. There's no way around that math, no matter what anyone says.

    As an aside, neither the financial industry nor the legal industry actually add to the private wealth base. All they do is move money around from one place to another...they don't actually ADD anything. This is why the rise in the Dow has so little real meaning, because it no longer really measures the expansion or contraction of the private wealth base.

    Will broadband to every home wind up expanding the private wealth base enough to cover the costs? If not, what are we willing to give up to bring the overall relationship between the private wealth base and government spending back in balance? Aren't these the questions to be asking before anyone launches down this road?

    4. There IS another aspect to this that needs careful thought. The circuit-switched telephone networks that were built during the 1900s using both public and private funds will require replacement at some point in the not-too-distant future. Circuit switching is on its way out; no new switches are being designed, and the installed base is becoming harder and harder to maintain. Inevitably there will be a requirement to transition the installed base to new equipment simply from the standpoint of maintainability. Questions: Do we still believe that basic telephony is something that as a society we should still sustain throughout the country? If so, how should we upgrade the existing infrastructure to deal with the maintenance / spare parts issues of the current hardware? Should we consider transitioning to a packet-switched fabric as part of this? Should we consider transitioning to fiber delivery? Wireless delivery? Both? Something else? What are we willing to give up in order to do this and still satisfy the government / private wealth base equation?

    These are hard questions that will require a good deal of serious, rational, non-emotional thought. Final question: Is anyone in our society mature enough any longer to separate the issues in these questions, assess each logically and non-emotionally, assemble a set of answers into a plan, and execute the plan? Or will this issue just become another "front" in the ongoing 40+-year-old Cold Civil War II between the partisans on left and right?
  • WOW! I do wonder what our descendants will think and will they know what we really were thinking about our privacy issues in realtion to the world wide web!

    http://www.FamilyForest.com
  • joshuadf
    "Sarkozy to bring 100Mbps Internet to most French citizens in the next decade." (probably fiber)

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/12...
  • Roy
    Our family spends a couple weeks every summer on an island in a house without electricity. We quite enjoy the gas lamps and even have a gas refrigerator. We don't miss electricity, and certainly don't miss TV for those 2 weeks. But we do miss the Internet. Smartphones with intermittent connectivity give us fleeting access to email, but the rest of the net is unreachable. We're thinking of spending thousands of dollars for some solar panels which could power a microwave link. In the 21st century Internet is definitely the new electricity - in our case it is more important than electricity in our lives.
  • Oh, and yes. Universal broadband and universal transportation are, well... YOu know...

    They're SO trendy among the wealthy and elites, who think they're perfectly awesome. But never ride the bus with the poor folks.

    It's yet one more tempest in a teapot. The Seattle area has so MANY huge and pressing issues of budgets, failure of government in SO many aspects... Why don't you tell them to stop trying to change the subject until all the potholes are filled, there's no crime, and the homeless are all clean and well groomed, before you give them yet another task to never complete?
  • Again almost everywhere else in the world regard it as a birthright but in the USA it is
    only for those that can afford it.


    It's just a matter of perspective. The idea that a "birthright" is really just whatever your government can and wishes to afford is so laughable as to be...well, patently juvenile as it relates to logic or reasoning. Which is why most of Europe has private pay for service health care systems that cater to the wealthy and elites who dont' wish to live by only what politicians dole out.

    Of course, the notion that you have a right to anything someone else produces or has, went out of style in America with slavery. We've no intention of regressing that far. Someday, the Socialists may advance beyond slavery era morality, but I have little hope.
  • thaanos
    Fiber to the home may not be needed by the masses now, but as the future comes, it will be. For those of us who remember dial-up internet in the 90's. You paid for a certain amount of connection time. And running on a 33.6 k modem at that time, 60 hours of connection time(a month) was a lot of information. Look at the early years of this decade, in 2001, for most consumers 1000kbit was a good connection, and very few home users had a need for higher connection speeds. Now today, both of those seem ridiculous. Eventually the 15mbit connections of today will be laughable at best. We do not know the needs of the future, so at the moment, the best option is to go with fiber to the home, for that will allow the most potential for the upcoming decades, until a new technology is present and can accomidate the needs of that time.
  • seth
    Glen apparently you are having difficulty with 60 Ghz physics. For a refresher.

    Google Bridgewave 60 ghz unlicenced radio's.

    and

    http://wirelessgigabitalliance.org/news/814/

    Note the support for beamforming. Note also that the Brightwave unit has an integrated 40 dbi antenna.
  • Steve D
    Broadband is fine, public or private, but what is really needed are public servers. Too many Web sites will disappear as their owners die, retire, or just get tired of paying for server space. And how much junk clutters our web pages simply to pay for the use of the server? Set up public servers, set up some sort of screening procedure to keep junk out, and restrict them to non-commercial use.
  • I'm not old enough to remember the introduction of electricity but I do remember the technical revolution brought about by the introduction of calculators.

    More and more I believe that universal internet connectivity is just as essential as universal health care.
  • Folks,

    I am not from Seattle, but followed a link to this discussion.

    @23 -- third-world Internet connectivity is far behind that of Seattle, and the quantitative gap is growing at an accelerating rate. That results in a large qualitative (application) gap.

    @19 I don't know how you figure the wireless "trajectory" is outpacing wireline. Perhaps you have read about projected speeds of fast LTE wireless, which began rolling out this week in Stockholm and Oslo, see for example:

    http://cis471.blogspot.com/2009/12/lte-version-...

    While that is impressive, look what has been achieved using municipally owned fiber in Stockholm and some other cities:

    http://cis471.blogspot.com/2009/04/why-is-conne...

    Glen is right -- fiber is the future for fixed locations. The question is not "will we have fiber," the questions are "when will we have fiber" and "who will own the fiber" -- a mix of building owners, governments, private companies?

    I can go on about ownership alternatives and misdeeds of the large ISP mono/oligopolists, but I will stop and refer you here for more:

    http://cis471.blogspot.com/search/label/policy

    Larry Press
  • Electricity today is largely in the hands of private companies. If I choose, then I can get a solar panel on my roof and disconnect from the grid.

    The role of government intervention was largely due to the fact that building out that infrastructure in the early 20th century was exceedingly expensive.

    I think the analogy breaks down today because the internet has largely been built out using private funds.

    Assuming I don't have internet at home, the availability of a connection in libraries, coffee shops etc is pretty much ubiquitous, even in rural areas.

    Cost-wise, an internet connection compares favourably with other utility costs as well, even for rural / third-world customers.

    I'm not certain how government-level intervention would improve this.
  • desertleap
    I'll go a step further and say that wireless broadband is also critical. There are dozens of wireless applications that will improve lives, save energy and increase safety. The stumbling block for these apps is the wireless cost. These apps are not possible with $60 / month access charges that are standard fees for wireless network connectivity.
  • Broadband, or whatever the technology it ends up being to meet the ideal, is essential. And to Neil's point, as is Health care.

    Society has come so far but there is still a long road to travel.
  • Glenn Fleishman
    In response to several posts above about fiber versus wire or other technology: I'll just point out that there is no one on the planet that believes it makes sense when building a new network to use wire if fiber is an option.

    @13: You kinna beat the laws of physics. Go read up on 60 GHz physics and technology and get back to me.
  • David M
    Great piece.

    In his work, Carr references Christiansen's classic 'Innovator's Dilemma' and impact of disruptive technologies. The incumbent technology today is wireline and disruptive tech is mobile.

    Most adults today grew up before wireless networks. We are still accustomed to deferring to wireline and wifi when available. But the trajectory in mobile innovation far outpaces wireline.

    The cost of maintaining redundant ubiquitous wireline and wireless networks is untenable. Copper fiber and wifi go away. Wired plant becomes irrelevant other than large enterprise, remote rural and feeding cell towers.
  • Neil Broderick
    Hi,
    speaking as a European I would wonder how far you
    would personally carry this argument? Forgetting about
    broadband the analogy that springs immediately to mind
    is health care. Again almost everywhere else in the world regard it as a birthright but in the USA it is
    only for those that can afford it.

    regards,
    Neil
  • Paul Houldsworth
    Remember Municipal Ownership its Yours, Private its Theirs!
  • David
    Hi Glenn - While I agree in principle, I think you are getting hung up on the fiber aspect. Universal broadband would be a great thing, but at the policy level lets not dictate the technology. Maybe in some places fiber makes sense, maybe in others the hybrid approach is better, and in other still maybe wireless.
  • While I believe FTTP networks are worth deploying regardless of the ability of the network to service its own debt, that remains a major point of contention for opponents. Breaking even is critical in order to survive changes in elected leaders, criticism from telecom front groups, and a heaping helping of negative press. UTOPIA is the nation's largest muni fiber network and has made its share of missteps. Hopefully your city government has been paying attention to what's going on in Utah.

    @3: Actually, Tesla had some crazy ways of doing wireless power that we still don't fully understand today. And just like wired vs. wireless broadband, wired has substantively more capacity than wireless ever will. It's like comparing a water main to a drinking straw.
  • seth
    The cheap and dirty fiber to the node would generally use max 300ft drops but could go as far as 1000 feet with repeaters for usual configurations. Cat 5e cable should be sufficient for this application.

    Cat 6A (aka E) is unnecessary for this application.
  • seth
    The electronics for a fiber drop are so much more expensive than copper that if indeed you can even think of an reasonable application that needs more than 1 GigE to the household in the next thirty years, it would require replacing the Seattle's Cadillac system electronics at an enormous cost. 10 gigE copper is already available and if history is any judge costs of that will drop rapidly

    Fiber to the home has no fixed drop distance. Cat 6E drops go to almost 1000 feet.

    You are referring to radio shack meter at a time prices for indoor. Commercial 100 Kft quantity outdoor rated Cat 6E is under 10 cents a foot.

    The greatest part of the cost of a network is in the drops, so saving money there has the biggest effect on overall cost. That $5 cost is for customer drop connect electronics only. Costs higher up the network are spread over many customers so have less of an effect.

    As for 802.11ad, they used to say wifi had a maximum outdoor range of 1000 feet but as you know with $10 Luxor antenna ranges of ten miles are routine. In fact WiGig has just announced a beam forming feature which would allow all over the house deployments just like 802.11bg. Commercial 60 gig products have ranges up to a mile.

    Given the near impossibility of funding even a no brainer like transit in Seattle, I'd suggest McGinn shift his focus to the more doable, more effective (wireless throughout the city), order of magnitude less expensive fiber to the node system. Try it out in a couple of neighborhoods, see how it goes, and take that success story to council and the taxpayer.
  • Glenn Fleishman
    @12: If you're running new drops, fiber makes more sense, despite the end-point cost, because of the future value.

    Fiber to the node only brings fiber to within as far as 2,000 feet from a home (as opposed to as far as 10,000 feet for DSL to work from a central office).

    The numbers you cite for Ethernet isn't for outdoor quality wiring, nor would the per-port costs add up for large-scale deployments. And you still have the same back-end infrastructure cost.

    On 802.11ad and WiGig, both of which work in 60 GHz, the standard works within a single room. 60 GHz signals drop in power extremely rapidly and attenuate over short distances. Ten meters will be perhaps the farthest range for the highest speeds.
  • seth
    Sure hope McGinn sticks to his guns - he will be under a lot of pressure. The city needs telecom engineers competent in the field to come up with a workable cost effective plan.

    Fiber to the node is a lot cheaper than fiber to home because electronics costs haven't caught up.

    Cat 6e drops are about 10 cents a foot in bulk (100k ft) and connect at 1 GigE to a 100 meter away block node. A city light crew could easily do a drop a man hour.

    A 1 GigE basic switch connect is less than $5 bulk purchase. The fiber is the same cost but expensive to install and the switch connection at home and at the node is way more expensive. If at some time fiber electronics becomes cheaper new installs can start using it but 1 GigE to the home is a lot faster than any future use I can envision.

    Next year 802.11ad at 60 Ghz 6 GigE will be coming on line and I'll bet that will connect an entire block up without cabling. WiGig has annouced 7 GigE with beamforming so who knows.
  • Glenn Fleishman
    @9: From what I can tell, no. Fiber has been around now for decades, and its replacement isn't even on the table. Fiber is an optical medium, so your limit is the speed of light and how fast (and well) you can overlay information onto light waves.

    DSL is a neat trick to put data over a medium that really shouldn't be able to carry data at all. Telcos boost DSL rates by bringing fiber close to neighborhoods, and then running DSL over very short distances, allowing even more speed.

    Cable has greater capacity, far greater, but there are always compromises, and there are physical limits beyond which you can't go. And each cable is part of a networked neighborhood distribution which has a fixed pooled capacity. Cable also brings fiber close by to boost speeds by using wire for short runs instead of back to the main cable plant.

    Fiber to the home gives a huge potential beyond current speeds and abilities because fiber's top speed is unknown--it's clearly far beyond what's being carried over it today. To upgrade fiber, you change out gear on either end: at the home, you swap the modem/adapter; and at the other end, you upgrade the optical switch.

    Today's fiber could conceivably carry 100 times the capacity it carries today, based on research in field, because you can polarize light, use different phases, split into smaller and smaller wavelengths, and so on. It's a deep mine.

    Of course, no one thought when coax cable and telephone systems were built that they could carry data, and 20 years ago the potential capacity seemed like it could be quite limited. But the limits of phone wire and cable are now well known, and the end is coming for dramatic future improvements.
  • Mikos
    Glenn-- I know nothing about fiber transmission. Is this the sort of thing, like in Tacoma, that we would build now and in 20 years it would be outdated? It seems logical (in the information age) to have the best information transmission possible but would it be a fleeting achievement?
  • T.Chen
    Them rural folk ain't gonna' appreciate your big government solution to subsidize their high speed internet. As we all know, the rural areas are self-sufficient, or suffer from having to pay their tax dollars so that the big city folk can waste it on marriage benefits for the homosexuals.

    They just want to be left alone (to their farm subsidies and road subsidies and Medicare and Social Security and Pork Barrel museums and airports paid for by federal earmarks etc.)!
  • joshuadf
    Good piece.

    Electle?
  • Glenn Fleishman
    @5: True, except that Tacoma has the state of the art for the 1990s: fiber/coax hybrid, which is pretty much what cable operators like Comcast build today. This isn't terrible by any means. If Tacoma were starting today to build a network, there's no question that it would try to build an all-fiber effort. The triple-play (voice, video, data) has been proven, which it wasn't back a decade ago when work began.

    Tacoma's network is a great success, and it's poetic justice that it's an electric utility, publicly owned, that built it.
  • phil
    You don't have to go far to compare broadband in our city with one that has their own broadband system - Tacoma.
  • Glenn Fleishman
    @3: It's a good point you make. But broadband's ultimate destiny is fiber, not wire. There were gas pipes to every home before wires for electricity were rolled out. Surely gas illumination is fine because it's just illumination, right?

    I'm not being snarky, but that was literally, word for word, the argument against a universal upgrade for electricity.

    It's not that the city own the broadband. It's that there is no dispute among anyone in telecommunications that every home in industrialized nations in urban and suburban areas should have a fiber line. That's just not a question.

    The question is how affordable is it to build such a network?

    Verizon says it's affordable in its landline territory. Qwest and AT&T say not in their rest of the country. Comcast, Cablevision, Time Warner, and others are trying to get the best of both worlds, arguing fiber to nodes is fine, with high-speed links. But it isn't. It's second best, and not capable of providing enough bandwidth for future applications and high-definition on demand to each house. Fiber is.

    So the real issue isn't whether we have adequate service today, but whether what we have today is what we want in 5, 10, 50 years. Fiber would still be futureproofed in 50 years because the technology to put more data over fiber from each end increases speeds every year. (I talked to a government-funded Australian researcher looking into terabit single-strand fiber.)
  • carl
    It seems to me the analogy to electrical utilities breaks down. In the 1930s, and still today, the only way to deliver electricity on a mass scale was to build a wired network. And in many areas, at least, that wasn't going to happen without government initiative. In the case of broadband, just about all of us in Seattle already have one or more ways to get service. What exactly would a city broadband utility give me, above and beyond what I can already get from cable, Clearwire, etc.?

    What In outline was to build a wired n, in that there wasn't any alternative available widespread access to electricity -- there wasn't any alternative deliver(certainly in rural areas, at least).
  • eric
    A high speed fiber network delivered to every household at low cost would be a huge boon to our local economy. Seattle could and should be the center for internet based tech development in the US. The city has already built out and owns an extensive fiber system, but it sits mostly unused. The city needs to create partnerships with broadband providers to leverage the investment in fiber we've already made to ensure that it reaches every home at an affordable price. Seattle was a leader in technology infrastructure in the 1990's, but that innovation and support pretty much stopped during the Nickel's administration. The new mayor has an opportunity to put Seattle back in the tech game, but we'll have to wait and see what his administration decides to do, if anything.
  • Wells
    Here's an article "How FDR enacted his Public Option," about the Rural Electrification Act program. It relates electricity to health care and points out how utilities then didn't want to serve rural customers as being similar to how health insurance companies today don't want to serve those who affect the bottom line. Frankly, I can't put broadband in the same category as a life and death health concern.



    http://crosscut.com/2009/09/08/energy-utilities...
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