Brothers and Sisters

By Josh Feit, Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 8:43 AM
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A coalition of minority advocacy, civil liberties, and social justice groups sponsored a candidate forum—titled “To Protect & Serve?”—at the Rainier Valley Cultural Center last night that focused on public safety and criminal justice.

The auditorium was packed for two hours as a parade of exclusively white candidates did their best to be down—namedropping King County Council Member Larry Gossett, supporting President Obama, having an adopted African-American kid.

Here are some highlights.

1. Candidate of the Night

City Attorney candidate Peter Holmes was the hit candidate last night, where a mostly minority, strongly left-leaning crowd cheered his every answer. It might have had something to do with the fact that his opponent, incumbent Tom Carr, wasn’t there—as Erica first reported yesterday—to challenge him. (Carr’s assistant Ruth Bowman read a clunky opening statement and left).

Holmes—one of  10 city candidates on the crowded stage, including both mayoral candidates—stood out thanks to a finely calibrated rap that had the audience (like the older African-American woman I overheard outside after the forum) feeling “he’s for real.”

Holmes’ opening statement began by dinging Carr for being a no-show (“everyone should take the opportunity to speak with you”), re-framing the job of city attorney (“you are the client, not City Hall, not the police, not big business”), and he concluded to major applause with this sound bite: “Build a new jail? … Not on my watch.” (Holmes noted that Carr has not been as forthright on the issue. True. While Carr is opposed to the idea, he has said he will support a new jail if he must.)

Later, asked to spell out differences between himself and Carr, Holmes said while both candidates talk about “alternatives to incarceration,” Carr’s words were undermined by the city’s ongoing prosecutions for possessing small quantities of pot. Holmes said he was against the policy of criminalizing marijuana (big big cheers), said he supported a bill in the legislature this year that would have decriminalized pot, and paraphrased Carr’s position as “the best I can tell is he says he doesn’t know.”

Holmes also criticized Carr’s office for not using “prosecutorial discretion,” saying he wouldn’t prosecute every case brought by the police (he cited some sadly funny examples, like a homeless person arrested for stealing a can of tuna and the Nickelsville defendants), saying instead he would be a “check on the police.” Again, huge cheers.

2. Most Awkward Moment of the Night

…when mayoral candidate Joe Mallahan addressed the crowd as “My brothers and sisters.”

Mallahan also got his facts wrong, saying adamantly that people shouldn’t have to file public records requests to find out about crime statistics in their neighborhoods.

They don’t. The information is available online.

3. What I Learned at the Debate

City Council candidate Sally Bagshaw—the former head of the King County Prosecutor’s Office civil division—supports legalizing marijuana.

Bagshaw footnote: While her opponent, lefty Church Council activist David Bloom, had the obvious support of the audience with his clear-cut rap about reordering city priorities by investing  resources in basics instead of “huge capital projects”—”If we’re not investing [in basic needs] than we’re not serious”—Bagshaw was surprisingly passionate and won several rounds of applause herself for stressing the need for alternatives to just locking people in jail.

4. Most Direct Throwdown

Asked how he would help create jobs in Southeast Seattle, Mallahan slyly turned the question into a dig at his opponent, anti-waterfront-tunnel guy Mike McGinn.

Strolling over to McGinn’s side of the stage, Mallahan glanced back over his shoulder, saying: “There are large infrastructure programs we’re going to initiate … hopefully …” going on to explain that he would lock in “universal project labor agreements” with language guaranteeing jobs for specific zip codes.

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  • insider baseball
    Mallahan has obviously spending lots of time with union folk lately because they always address each other as 'brothers and sisters'. Seems to be rubbing off on him.

    "Brothers & Sisters!" It's a Labor Union thang.
  • Melissa Jonas
    @45 Licata and Conlin attended the Council meeting that night--scheduling conflict that actually deserves a pass, since it's their job to attend Council events.

    Licata came early and ate dinner w/everyone. It was cool. I was disappointed Conlin didn't show at all.

    Sally Bagshaw came across as sweet and genuine, if a bit school-marmish. Jesse Israel was amazing--why did she go after Licata? Rosencrantz was stiff and creepy, making O'Brien that much more likable.

    Pete Holmes and Dow Constantine (both there without an opponent) absolutely stole the show. They both seemed confident, comfortable, and sincere. Dow came late and was self-effacing and so very smart. I may have a favorite candidate overall.
  • tedb310
    I agree that the city atty does not decide if a jail is built or not. But that is not what gets to me about all the media coverage on this issue. Pete Holmes says he does not want a "new jail" and all the media, including Publicola repeats that. The phrase "new jail" implies the city already has an old one. It doesn't, all it has, other that a few short term holding cells at local precincts is leased space from King County. And the county has voted to boot the city out.
  • LH
    Kick out the Jams...that's exactly what I heard in my head when I read your headline this am...I didn't hear it that way when I heard Mallahan say it though.

    Brothers and Sisters is also a lyric from PE's Fight the Power. Mallahan channeling Chuck D. Now that's amusing!
  • @39,
    Or maybe he thought he was at an MC5 concert?
  • LH
    Define late? The event was promoted with a start time of 5:30. Licata was there from 5:30 - 6:30 for the meal that was prepared as part of the event. I didn't get there until 6:15 myself and I'd be interested to know which of the candidates besides Licata supped with their hosts.
  • No Name needed
    Mallahan trying to "bond" with those he looks down on behind closed doors.


    HAHAHAHAHA
  • Gidge
    @45--You're incorrect on 2 of those candidates. Licata did show up late, and Constantine was there (they were planning to hold the Exec portion until the end, since both candidates had a conflict. Turns out, only Constantine cared to come).
  • citizen
    licata was there, get your facts straight.

    there was a city council official event so the incumbents did have an excuse.

    Carr's excuse, a private fundraiser, is lame, and he didn't answer most questions on the questionnaire, either.
  • Gidge
    Yeah, there's no way that he confused this event for a union hall meeting.
  • electionwatcher
    Licata -- absent

    Conlin -- absent

    Constantine -- absent

    Hutchison -- absent

    Carr -- absent

    As usual this half baked reporting does not report the entire facts of those present and absent.
  • sarah68
    A yuppie-looking white businessman using the phrase "Brothers and Sisters" in an African-American neighborhood cultural center event was pretty weird. Maybe he didn't know where he was, which could likely happen at this point in a long campaign. Or maybe he is just clueless.
  • Michael M.
    @42

    It was pretty awesome, seeing the vote go down the way it did! Suzie will have plenty awesome to say, I'm sure!
  • @36,

    Good call. We'll get that up. I got notice of that last night after the forum, but when I woke up in the AM to do Fizz I was focused on my notes re: the forum.

    I'll put in a call to the KC Dems and do a post on that.
  • Michael M.
    @37:

    I remember how this all started -

    SO, with Gidge's point - that makes it clear that not only does the City Attorney really matter, quite a bit, but same goes for the King County Prosecuting Attorney when it comes to marijuana offenses.

    And you are very correct, that we do need decriminalization at the State level to make any significant difference.
  • Guest
    @34 - Maybe some Zima will help.
  • Trevor
    I don't know what Mallahan was thinking. But his awkwardness might have had a reasonable explanation.

    All sorts of people use the phrase "brothers and sisters" as part of addressing organized labor. It sounds corny, but in a labor context it's a respectful way of claiming to be in solidarity with the workers you're addressing. And Mallahan has been meeting with labor recently. Of course, outside that unique context, the phrase can have any number of other unintended connotations, or just sound weird in our very casual culture.
  • missing Fizz
    Mallahan arrived before the vote--the agenda was rearranged to allow time for the candidates to come after the forum. Both mayoral candidates, as well as both candidates for Seattle City Council Position 8 were expected. Only Mallahan showed.
  • Gidge
    @35--Yes, I used to work in District Court and have friends who still practice (on both sides) in Dist Ct. They are still actively prosecuting misdemeanors/gross misdemeanors occuring in Seattle if the defendant is arrested by any of the law enforcement agencies I listed before.

    The press that you saw had to do with changes made to deal with the County's budget crisis, but those changes affected felonies. There are a variety of felonies that KCPAO is either now prosecuting as misdemeanors or referring to Municipal Courts to be prosecuted as misdemeanors.

    @36--Did Mallahan get there before or after the endorsement vote? It seems like I heard about the results very shortly after the forum ended.
  • missing Fizz
    Interesting that you guys decide not to cover Mallahan gaining the SOLE endorsement of the King County Democrats last night ...

    Mallahan rushed from this event to the KC Dems endorsement meeting and McGinn never showed up.
  • Michael M.
    @33:

    But I want to belabor the point!!!

    And perhaps your right, but, per the KCPA's website, the press that I have seen, and the attorneys in my firm, that is not the case. However, I'm beginning to think that you are also either a Def atty, or work in the PA's office.

    But yes...this is way off topic, and I have no idea how we got here...I should re-read this thread :-)
  • @30, FYI, crying so the images will be washed away does not work.

    @26, did Conlin finally just adopt Ron Sims? I thought that was gong to be the other way around. Does Conlin have to move to DC?
  • Gidge
    @29--I don't want to belabor a point that's becoming off-topic, but you're just going to have to trust me that KCPAO does prosecute misdemeanors that occur in Seattle if the arrests are made by officers other than SPD.
  • hmmmm
    How often do Mayoral candidates who ride bikes as an image getter have blown red lights in their car without a drivers' license, and not been questions about it?

    At least once.
  • Dorsol Plants
    @23

    The SPD was going through a whole report system change, a rather difficult one.

    I've never had any issue getting crime statistics from SPD or the city. We even have an on-duty officer that comes to every HPAC neighborhood meeting and explains what the numbers mean.
  • Guest
    K9 @ 28 - I need to go clean out my brain now.
  • Michael M.
    @27:

    You have a point - I meant misdemeanors in cities will not be taken by the KCPA due to budgetary constraints. Unincorporated misdemeanors do have to be handled by someone :-)

    Per the KCPA's website:

    District Court Unit
    The District Court Unit is responsible for screening and prosecuting all criminal traffic and misdemeanor cases arising in unincorporated King County. It also handles appeals to the Superior Court from convictions in District Court.
  • K9
    I learned that Bagshaw wants to de-criminalize marijuana at the Washington Bus' event, Candidate Survivor, where she also told the crowd she is a member of the mile high club...
  • Gidge
    @22--it's not true that KC no longer handles misdemeanors. In fact, all KC District Court does is misdemeanors and gross misdemeanors. They handle any arrests made by KC Sheriff's deputies, WA State Patrol, Port of Seattle, UW Police, etc, including arrests made in city limits. Seattle Muni Court does have an important role, but it's not the only one.

    I'm not a Carr fan, and I agree with legalization, but Carr's office doesn't prosecute that many pot cases (yes, any is too many). If we're going to have a real impact on the numbers of people going through the court system because of pot, we need to address it at a state level. I would love to see our Seattle electeds, teaming up with electeds from cities all over the state, go down to Olympia and really push for the change.
  • @19,

    Richard Conlin.
  • J.R.
    @19: I don't know. Which one?

    @20: Tough stuff, Josh.
  • Michael M.
    So Conlin wants to be like Bruno?
  • Kathryn
    No Josh, YOU got it wrong. The data was held up for nearly a year at the time the CD was undergoing a rash of burglaries. They said they were migrating to a 'new' system, and that the reports were still paper based. In the midst of this, Nickels continued to claim that crime was going down. I supposed based on his magic ball? Perception and reality could not be compared in any rational manner.

    At this time, it is still unclear if the numbers are accurate. A public records request would be required. However, the original information is only available by requesting specific case number by specific case number.

    Is that transparency?
  • Michael M.
    @21:

    Yes, but the discretion of Prosecution is solely that of the City Attorney's office (as the KCPA no longer handles misdemeanors). So until the State actually does something meaningful, we have the ability to basically just ignore that law.
  • Gidge
    @18-the city does have some jurisdiction over marijuana, but the fix really needs to be made at a state level. As long there's a state law criminalizing possession, people can still be arrested and prosecuted for possessing marijuana in Seattle.

    @19-Conlin.
  • @13,

    Susan Hutchison wasn't there.
  • Bill LaBorde
    Which candidate has an adopted African-American child?
  • Michael M.
    @11:

    The city jurisdiction solely relates to prosecution. Most small marijuana crimes should not be prosecuted (and we have a law that basically puts them at the bottom of the heap), and while it is rare that they are, Carr's office still does it from time to time. Larger busts are usually picked up by the feds, but even Holder has stated that he's focusing less on these, unless they're really big and nasty.

    And wtf? Where on earth did you come up with Mallahan being a racist? That's like Glen Beck calling Barack Obama a racist. Way to go!
  • no so disappointed
    I'm pretty sure I saw McGinn on his bike last night coming from downtown. How often do you see mayoral candidates commuting around on bicycles? I thought it was pretty awesome, even if it is an electric-assist bike.
  • christi s
    PSA:

    City Attorney Debate at the West Seattle Golf Club on 35th. Tomorrow (Thursday, 9/24) at 11:00 am to 1 pm.

    This is a 2 hour full debate format with rebuttal time between Tom Carr and Pete Holmes. No other candidates, no other issues - all City Attorney!

    RSVP please wsdwomen@yahoo.com or on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/event.php?ei...

    Seats are limited - first come, first serve!

    Includes drinks and box lunch. Members $10.00, Non Members $15.00
  • sarah68
    Hutchison not only didn't show, she didn't fill out the exceedingly long and specific questionnaire that everyone else did. She's running the most arrogantly non-communicative campaign I've ever seen. If she wins, King County voters should be ashamed of themselves. The County deserves better.

    Time to mention again the fact that Mallahan may be running--or stumbling, loaded with money, an advisory committee, and poor semantics--for office, but he didn't feel it worthwhile to vote in many past elections. If he wins, Seattle City votes should be ashamed of themselves. The City deserves better.
  • jeralyn
    Hutchinson a no show isn't a big suprise, but where the dickens was Carr! This was his event of the season!
  • westside
    Susan Hutchison was a no-show last night as well. This is part of her trojan horse strategy to hide her far right views from the public. Call her out, Josh.
  • gloomy gus
    Gomez, with five weeks to go and pressure building, I'm betting we get to see a lot more stumbling and bumbling from both of them before we get our ballots.
  • Michael G
    Interesting about Sally Bagshaw and legalizing marijuana. I already liked her, and this makes me like her even more. As a practical matter, what is the city government's jurisdiction on this matter?

    Was there any mention of the controversy over Mr. Mallahan's alleged racism?
  • tpn
    It has been well documented that the on-line information re: crime is often incorrect.
  • While I'm obviously no fan of his, it's looking more and more like Mike McGinn's going to win this election in a walkover the way Mallaspam continues to stumble and trip over himself during his campaign.
  • Michael M.
    Mallahan DID NOT say that all crime originates in the 37th at the 43rd LD Meeting, he just used an example of a high crime district (and I, personally, think he should have directly stated the neighborhoods).

    Regardless, it's true that crime is higher in SE Seattle than a lot of other neighborhoods, and having the willingness to stand up and say that, while discussing what one would do for Public Safety, is a no-brainer. What, more cops in Broadmoor?

    And the other big issue - jobs - Mallahan is the only one talking about creating living wage jobs, and being a regional player, not trying to segregate Seattle from the rest of the world. That's why he has been endorsed, overwhelmingly, by labor, business, and, just last night, the King County Democratic Central Committee (with very broad based support from inside the City).
  • Francis
    Since when does the city attorney build jails?
  • @3,

    No.
  • Louis
    I think what Mallahan is referring to is something that happened last year. An individual in SE Seattle did in fact have to file to get the most accurate crime stats, after repeated requests were ignored.
  • @2,

    Ha. True. I was late with the Fizz this morning. And so, when I finished writing up the 4th item, I just hit publish.

    You're right. Got tons more in my notebook. Maybe I'll be able to post more (Israel vs. Licata) later today.
  • Did Mallahan reiterate his assertion from the 43rd's endorsement meeting last week, that all of Seattle's crime originates from the 37th LD?
  • That ended suddenly.
  • Timothy
    Mallahan is writing checks left and right.
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